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Private Labeling & Getting Into Retail

This week, we’re talking about private labeling and getting into retail with Patrick Neuman, a senior category manager at Amazon.

Patrick graduated with a degree in economics nearly 20 years ago and quickly found his place in private label development. He started working with Safeway in the beverage, snacks, alcohol, and tobacco categories and eventually moved to Wegmans in New York. Later, he relocated to Nashville, where he built up a major convenience store program from the ground up.

After that, Patrick took an equity stake in a company that made premium condiments, both as a branded line and a private label for higher-end retailers. He eventually exited that business and moved to Amazon, where he currently works as a senior category and product manager for the health and wellness category.

Let’s get started.

Let’s go over some basic terms before we get down to the nitty gritty. What's the difference between private label and white label?

“So they’re relatively the same thing. I mean, retailers will have different strategies, but ‘private label’ encompasses everything that that retailer owns. Think about Kroger, for example. Kroger has their Kroger brand, they have private selection, and there are a bunch of different sub brands within there. Private label incorporates all of it. ‘White label’ is used less frequently since it’s a callback to the eighties where it was really cheap.”

And, while most major retailers sell at least some private label products, some modern businesses sell almost exclusively private label items.

“Take Trader Joe’s for example. 90 to 95% of the stuff that's in Trader Joe's is private label. It's their own branded product that they've developed.”

Let’s say I have a brand and I'm looking to break into a retail store. How can I really stand out when engaging with the category manager?

“It’s all about knowing your category well in terms of who the large players are and how you can differentiate from them. Look at a category manager’s two main goals: increasing top line revenue and increasing profitability. You need to ask yourself, ‘How do I drive top line revenue for that category?’”

“For a new brand coming in, the goal is figuring out how your brand can differentiate from what already exists in the category and how you can prove to that category manager that it's going to grow the category as a whole?”

When a category manager is presented with a new product, they have a hard decision to make—bringing in a new product means they have to remove pre-existing product from shelves to make room. They need to know that the new item will outsell the one it’s replacing.

The key to making a good argument for your product is knowing the retailer and what’s important to them.

“If you know the retailer and you know where their initiatives are, you can kind of play the pitch towards that. So, if I go into their store and they have yellow tags everywhere and they're talking about low prices, I don't want to come in and pitch them my most expensive item because at the end of the day, that doesn’t align with what the category managers are being told to find.”

You've worked on the manufacturing side as well as the retail side. What are some considerations for people earlier on in their product journey who are just now at the point of selecting a co-packer?

“So, most private label—I’d say 95% of it—is co-packed. I’ve probably partnered with thousands of different co-packers over my career and there are some big things you should look at.”

“I think what's important when evaluating co-packers is the length of time that they've been in business. I wouldn't partner with a co-packer that's a startup. You also need to understand who their existing customer bases are—who they are currently selling to.”

Why? To put it simply, a co-packer’s existing customer list is a huge marker of how well they’ll serve you and your business.

“If the co-packer you’re looking at also co-packs for Kroger and the Trader Joe's, you know they probably pass the bar since these retailers have pretty stringent QR processes. That’s an initial, quick assessment.”

“Additionally, I'd want to make sure I'm working with someone who understands my volumes and is able to grow with me. A lot of the really good co-packers will have multiple lines and they'll be able to start you on a line that makes, say, 250 cases. But, in the future, they have the ability to move you to a 50,000 case line. They can grow with you.”

And sometimes, growing together means more than just scaling.

“I've seen successful brands that started off co-packing and developed into bigger brands. These brands really partnered with their co-packer—they figured out a way for the co-packer to get equity in the business.”

I know that QA can often be hard to navigate. From that standpoint, what are the absolute musts? What are the things that you've seen that retailers might be more stringent about?

“From a retailer's perspective, when they're having someone partner with them to do private label, they need to meet their company’s expectations. Take Kroger for example—customers don't necessarily know that this random manufacturer produced that item for Kroger, right? They're just seeing “Kroger.” Kroger wants to make sure that everything is buttoned up and that there are no consistency issues because a lack of consistency reflects badly on their brand.”

“Nowadays, retailers have moved to a standard called SQF which includes a standard supplier audit once or twice a year, depending on the category. SQF is the gold standard. When major retailers like Kroger look at suppliers, they often have to be SQF-certified at the bare minimum.”

That said, finding an SQF-certified co-packer for your product can be difficult and extremely expensive. Thankfully, it’s not often required at smaller, more niche retail stores, where a GMP certification can suffice.

Either way, the message is clear—make sure your co-packer is up to the standard of the retailer you’re trying to sell into.

So, we’ve discussed what category managers are looking for, how to figure out if your brand aligns with a retailer, and selecting a co-packer. What about navigating terms with retailers?

“A retailer is going to have their standard terms. You should know that going in. And some of those will be free fills and slotting fees or allowances.”

But, not all retailers are created equal.

“The good thing is that for most of the innovative good retailers—like Wegmans, for instance—it doesn't cost anything to get on the shelf of the store. They're not going to require you to do a free fill. They're going to want you to give them the best price and let them sell it to the customer versus trying to get a free fill and charge you with allowances and deductions and bill backs and stuff like that.”

But what if you don’t completely agree with the terms?

“I think you should always try to push back. I wouldn't put so much weight in it that you lose the deal because most likely the retailer is going to have their standard terms and the only reason why they would deviate from those would be something like diversity metrics—for example, removing slotting fees for women-owned businesses.”

“So, I don't think it's the worst thing to try to push back, but I wouldn't push back so hard that you end up losing the deal.”

For a lot of entrepreneurs launching brands, cash flow is a primary concern. They don’t want to extend themselves too far. What should they expect?

“The standard is 2/10 net 30. Most retailers that I’ve worked with will do that. Now, they’ll extend that 30 times, but I think being upfront with your category buyer is going to drive a lot of this.”

Another issue you may encounter is long term lengths. Many retailers have 90-day terms, essentially giving themselves time to sell the product before they pay you, the supplier. Going into this, you should expect to have to fight the retailer to get your money. That said, if you manage a negotiation, you can consider bringing up term length adjustments.

“Most category managers are sympathetic to new startup brands. Their goal is to grow the category and grow its top line revenue and profitability. Within that, a lot of it has to do with finding new, innovative, and exciting things that can lead the category. Talking it through with them, especially after you have them bought in, is crucial.”

“You can tell them, ‘Hey, this is a fairly large PO for us. Given your standard terms, is there another way that we can look at this?’ Now, with this, there’s a delicate balance. You don't want them to think, ‘Okay, this is a financially insolvent company that's about to go out of business.’ But at the same time, they do understand that you are a startup.”

Until next time,
— The CPG MBA Team

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